Hectic

Very the Sian . . . . .

Joy is simple

Immense joy and blissfulness were filled to the brim for the quality time spent over the start of the weekends.

We are behaving like an old couple who priorities work and play.

More than usual we spend our day at work and other necessary responsibility where our job is concern.

We even out time spend with friends out of a percentage of our private evenings which belongs to just the 2 of us.

We enjoy our shopping trip to the supermarket,

the wonderful home cook food indulge,

the DIY face mask sessions,

intimate hugs,

late night DVDs and cuddles,

discovery channel/animal planet/national geographical laughs,

bicycle ride in the middle of the night,

BBQ sessions at the end of the party,

early morning breakfast and milkshake by me can be something sweet and enjoyable.

We realised that simple makes joy.

There is no need for extravaganza,

probably just once in a blue moon is enough for us.

A quiet and simple picnic at botanical garden can be a loud and enjoyable day for the both of us.

When love is in the air,

you will know it.

You will not expect the more of it.

Simply,

whatever you did is appreciated and reciprocal.

Integrating from mere liking to what love is all about.

Thanks to my hubhubieee for loving me,

love showers of care,

and constant remind of my bad habits.

There is this strong feeling of;

joyfulness and love,

lasting for a lifetime.

So much u know ~~

Its universal

When we talk about love, as in loving someone wholeheartedly. The willingness of doing anything for the one you love so much. I learned to love and give without any expect to sow. I realised how unreasonable i was in the past, at that point of time i simply do not understand how to love. The flashbacks of how great i was treated in the past but i wasnt reciprocal. The efforts he made massaging my back without fail during my cramps cycle once a month which lasted for a full 6 years. How he gave in to me whenever i was so utterly unreasonable. How ridicules i was. Thats an irrevocable past i cant deny. Even so, i did not look back and i will never do. Past is always a past, once the feeling is gone, its gone forever. In the current relationship with hubbiee right now, i am just doing my rightful part. It is not to impress, but to give the rightful privilege what my lovely deserve. The warmness and blissfulness being love. I did all because i love him so much. More than i love myself. To release his migraines, i continued massging him despite of the pain i am suffering from my cramps. I didnt feel unjustify, the bottomline, i just want him to feel better. I just found out that, i am really putting him before myself. Loving him more than who ever can imagine. Simply make a comparison of the past self. I am doing everything i wasnt prepared to. I didnt imagine that, thats how much i love him. I would really want to be with him and spend the rest of my life with him. Probably thats the reason why i am giving all my love without any reserve. I made a promise to myself, " no way" i will to do anything to hurt my current relationship, he is someone i wanted so much . . . . I want him to be the last man in my life and i hope i will be the last of his.

Spinning

Head spinning sensation on the Saturday morning, I finally got home after the contemplating wait with H for the save up on the peak hours surcharge cab fare. My cellphone rang, it was hubhubiee early in the morning. Thats early I thought. I spent the rest of my afternoon stoning and "Lao Saiing" . . . . Practically i was awake for the past 24 hours. I finally fell asleep, dead deep sleep. Awaken up by mum and urged me to get the tickets for the movie this evening. I forced myself out of the bed to get ready for my family movie day. It tirring, but it is worth the while, not because of the movie but a night out with my family.

Later part of the evening, i headed towards redhill to catch my hubbiee up. Its painful not to hug in 2 days in a row. I can tell that he wasnt feeling very well. For the next 24hours i spend my time looking after him and taking over the chores he is suppose to do. I spent my evening hugging my hubbiee and massaging him hoping to release his migraine. My heartache when i see him suffering and i really hope to see him well soon.

PS (H) you know who u r: Let it go . . . and i believe you will be happier. You deserve someone better... He is crap and i hate him because its so unjustifiable for u. Dont cry for jerks like him. Sigh ah . . . jialat lor u . . . be more rational lar... its so super unlike u.

And i think i shouldnt be caught up in that kind of situation anymore. . . something all of us didnt expect. If something like that happens again . . . pls excuse me... or gimme a DS-light or something to keep me occupied.

.Countdown woes.

We were invited by Roy and his dad to join the countdown party at the Copthone waterfront. I was showing attitude towards the duet childhood kakis throughout the night. I am not in a mood to talk about the countdown owing to my sprained neck and hormones activation of late coming "Aunt visit". I got moody easily and best of all, i cant flare. Its kind of irritating when actions and idiotic acts were inappropriate especially the hot water splashes. Tons of question marks what is he thinking? No matter how close i am as a buddy or friend, i deem a certain respect. The rest of my cliques see it though, i am not in a good mood. I am not the kind who flares easily i definately would not want to kill the atmosphere but please do not agitate it. It woes my night. Though i am pissed off with what it is and what he did, i still do thank him for the ride back. I am not holding any grudge but he definately got to learn something, do what is appropriate, say what is appropriate before he gets into real trouble with people one day.

Past 2008

I am resting on the end of my bed, feeling of tiredness after the last puff of my cigarette. I am categorizing events which befall in 2008.

OVERALL _

I think of the people whom i love and vice versa. I think of my lovely, my parents as well as my beautiful hearted friends who sculpt who I am and what I am worth for. I think of my human relation job which charaterised me. I learned to walk and work with care and concern. I thank my mentor, my colleagues and friends who make my business a wonderful career to be in.

MY HUBBIEEE_

It was him, my lovely who appear in my life and nurture the painful soul of mine to concrete that the painful past is over. Its exactly 6 months since we officially met. *Smiles* He is my relaxing cushion, my home and comfortable zone to rely on. Walking on the path which interlocks us, he makes the gem of my heart. A precious one and only defined gem which glows and shine. He always ask me this. Do you think Hubbieee loves you? In the deepest thought which voice, I am so afraid one day he will tell me he do not anymore. Well, its just a pessimistic moment of thought, but do not worry, pessimistic thoughts do not stay long in my mind.

So much

Riding on his old and rusty bicycle on my way to cheers supermarket.

The ride from you,

the back hugging bicycle ride.

So sweet and loving . . .

Thank you for everything my love love hubbieeee. . .

My lovely hubbieee,

its more than what words can describe.

The strong feeling of "so wanting" to live and stay with him as long as i am alive.

Just feel my happiness and blissfulness.

The life and touch of daily energy is boost by the love my hubbiee shower me with.

Unhappiness and sulk were being carried away by the pampering and laughter of my hubbiee.

He is my Hubbiee hubhub.

Christmas day Part 2

The meet up with the girls for Christmas gifts exchange.

Our initial plans were to dine in at the mushroom pot,

too bad they do not serve mini steamboat during festive seasons.

Therefore we changed our venue and headed towards Golden Mile for some home cook steamboat restaurant.

The first steamboat i had with cockles " yum yum",

fishballs, cuttlefish, veges, beef, chicken, pork, prawns.

the soup base is real good . .

The steamboat cost 45 bucks for 3 paxs.

Therefore its roughly around 15 buck each :)

Nice food and a great price.

Golden mile basement.

Christmas Day

My private time with dear lovely hubhubiee.

The little tiara crown from my hubiee indicating the little DS princess of his.

The violin music box,

followed by the pink rocking horse,

and the little tiara.

Sweet little things fill my heart with joy and love.

The first Christmas with my lovely,

marvelous !

The fun massage during the Christmas afternoon,

the rolling and wrestling on his bed,

the endless joy and laughter we shared,

it just taste so sugary sweet and lovely.

I almost died of laughter and the hugs from lovely hubbiee is never enough.

Eve Part 2

Oysters and drooling mussels which makes ur brows twitch,

cause its simply too delicious !!

Late coming guest,

ZhiYong and Ryan over at lovely's place.

Yummy fresh oysters !!

Sausage lips Hua hua . ..

Christmas eve

The Limo parked beside us during the orchard christmas jam . .

filled with a group of girls popping champanges . . .

Pinky's bday party,

cum christmas eve exchange.

Function rm 2

The usual gangs

Whats Eugene looking at?> ? ?

Stage the phase

Count on counter : 177Days of love from Hubbie

A relationship starts on with ATTRACTIONS,

evolves into HONEYMOON,

Sits into REALITY,

Weigh onto COMMITMENTS,

Eventually evokes in a MARRIAGE.

This is a long road to walk on,

never easy,

needs management,

its like a 3-legged walk of 2.

We got to learn how to give,

coordinate and care.

At times we fall, we helped each other up,

at a certain point of time,

one goes faster than the other,

we fell down once again.

This goes on and on . . . .

What matters it not how many times we fell,

but how many times we helped each other up with love.

Hubbie hub and i has stepped into the reality phase in our relationship.
Staging what is to be for months and years to come.
I realised that there are so many things and event of plans running through the mind of my hubbiee,
worst of all,
there is nothing i could do to help.
Yet . . .
I do feel rather gulity of having a thought of his surprise for our first Christmas.
To place it with comparision with the stuffs going through his mind,
i shouldnt be adding on weights to his mind.
:) Your company will be the best gift for our first Christmas.
I come to a conclusion on surprise gifts,
realising it does not cause any surprise effect towards my lovely hubbiee,
hahaaa . . . hubbiee is too immured towards gifts
hmm . . . . well well i'll try something different the next time round.
Coming year . . . .
I can foresee that for the coming year,
it is certain that there will be a time cut for the both of us.
I want to see my hubbiee succeed.
Do a great job,
make 2009 a bang in his career.
I would love to see my hubbiee enjoying the sweet tasting fruits of his passionate career.
My supporting role is,
to stand behind his back,
give him a warm hug of love and encouragement,
recognise his work and efforts,
do what i can to relieve his tension @ work,
and
to be the 1st one to stand up to applause for his sweat, his hard work, his determination and most importantly the drive for his passion.
Hopping that i will still be the one spinning my love around him like a DS kid by then :)

PS Hubbiee: Thou words told nowadays are not as sweet as before, not as beautify as before, i want you to know, there isnt enough time for me to tell you how i really feel, how badly i would want to be with you as long as i can. But be sure, i have a lifetime to show you how much i love you.

Post 366

Christmas is around the corner,

and i am wondering will hubbiee be spending his Christmas night with me?

I have a birthday party to attend which ends before midnight,

and i m unsure of his plans for Christmas.

And i dont think he will be joining us for Weiping's bday party.

Arghh . . . but i really hope to have an unique first Christmas with him,

something not lavish,

simple and joyful,

the special moment that belongs to just the 2 of us.

Untitled

Hubbieee is late for work again.

The cabby is so crappy,

so talkative.

I reach CCK with a cab fare of 38 bucks in the evening.

My hubbiee is shooting till 6am in the morning.

what a long and tiring night for him.

*Sayang* my hubbiee. . .

delights

HAPPINESS AVENUE

So delighted when hubbiee put over a night at my humble place,
bulking in with me on my tiny single bed.
I am so blown up by the blessful love of my hubbiee.
The job of mine,
waking up early in the morning and prepare breakfast for my hubbiee,
wake him up and get ready his tie for work.
I am so in love with him and would really wish to be waking up next to him every other day.
Seeing him lying next to me everyday i open my eyes.
He will do it without fail to embrace me with an early morning hug whenever he opens his eyes and sees me lying next to him.
He dropped a call this afternoon to fly his misses to my heart,
and saying "I love you" over the phone.
I am glad and grateful.
hUBBIE must be missing me alot and there should be some stuffs that triggers his thoughts to make him realised he

loves me alot.

I suppose that's part of the reason why he called and tell me that.

With compared to some couples who says that every other day,
saying "I love you" becomes like good morning greetings to them rather than the true meaning underlying it.

The I Love YOu from my hubbiee is precious.
It makes me fly with joy,
knowing that i make the precious in the heart of my hubbiee.
You are the joy to everyday of my life.
Thinking of you surfaced the greatest smile on my face.
Thank you my hubbiee,
for giving all the happiness and joy i can have.

Today

There is a sense of accomplishment when i tidied his room,

changed his bedsheets as well as the washings.

I do not feel unjustisfy,

and what overwhelmed me was i did all those willingly and happily. . . .

I am glad that he appreciate it,

tonight he shall sleep on his dust free bed and clean wiped bed frame.

Blessing him with a comfortable good night rest.

Since he was back, we didnt really have a proper conversation as he is always busy with his work and he has his work responsibility to fulfill.

Hubhub is such a busy ant.

A lovely and adorable busy ant.

I realised once u truly love someone,

you are willing to do anything,

literally anything.

You will know what to do,

and what not to do.

Ensuring and not to make the person you love feel sad or unhappy.

Hubhub is so busy these days,

therefore i feel its my scope to make him feel comfortable at rest,

which makes a point that i never fail to give him a good shoulder and back rub after his tired day when i am around.

Love you always my lovely Hubbieeee,

have a good night rest.

I realised

The day i realised that my eyes are meant just for you.

You left for you Bali trip,

those misses were crazy,

it seems that my world stopped spinning.

Each and everyday,

i paint the wooden piano blocks you left for me.

I realised i am crazily inlove with you.

The moment you called be back,

i jumped out in joy,

and found out that you are the one.

In the past,

i am always more than happy when my our-half gets out of Singapore without me. . .

Therefore i realised that my love for you is so much more than i could even imagine.

I just want to love you, love you and love you . . . . as long as i can . . . . and as long as you allow me to.

Flashbacks

I reminisce,

on the day i first met you,

we held our hands together as acquaintance,

and myself leading the way through the members bar and to Phuture.

The first impression on each other wasnt good and

we do not like each other either.

We just walked closely beside each other to squeeze through the furiously packed dance floor.

Both of us were looking out for some goodlooking opposite sex,

and didnt did we realised that cupid had shoot us in a split second.

I do not know why and how did we do that,

it just of a moment, that our eyes contact.

All of a sudden, we were standing so close and i could even smell his breathing breath.

Our lips touched.. .

Thinking that you were just flirting with me,

I didnt thought that we will contact after that night.

But in the end we still exchange our numbers, for the sake of exchanging with no intention to contact; its weird, but i still do got his numbers.

It was the next morning when i received a call from an unknown number,

It was you.

You asked me what will i be doing in the late afternoon, and i replied that i am

going for my violin lesson.

You asked me out for a movie that day after my violin class which i was pretty surprise to hear that.

I was early on our first date and i was browsing some book in a book store nearby.

You are the one who was late.

I dropped you a message to inform you to catch me up in the bookstore at the basement.

We misunderstood the meeting place, and i realised you went around searching for me.

I finally picked up a call from you and you said ; Where the fuck are you?

I was taken back and i told myself how could i be dating this guy?

I was pretty disappointed in some ways

Vulgarities

.

.

We finally meet up and you smile,

you offer to carry my violin for me.

We got the tickets for movie and were into a human pack lift.

You stood so close to me and whisper into my ears,

can we get closer?

1st reaction, you are an idiot.

Doesnt impress at all . . .

My heart thumps as usual.

We got into the theater,

in amid of the movie,

you started leaning over

you crossed your hands over and i didnt resist,

as it gives a comfortable feeling.

It was a crap show,

but the inner voice of myself told me that,

i enjoy your company.

The movie ended.

We were contemplating on where should we have for dinner,

at that moment of time,

we were hand in hand,

we took a small stroll down the street with our little conversation,

All of a sudden i was embraced by your hug along one of the traffic junction . .

That hug did warm my heart,

unnoticeable, we arrived at bugis.

Chatting and having our meals,

exchanging smiles and glares,

we stepped into a mutual liking towards each other.

After dinner,

we parted and this strange feeling hounds me,

i am starting to miss you,

its something i kept to myself.

You came in with a message the next day,

which says;

Haiz . . really have to admit something. i miss u alot. some how felt the connection and the comfort whenever i am with u, which is great.

At that point of time i knew i am falling for you.

I do not dare to text you at all,

thou i am feeling the same as you do.

And you scolded me silly silly. . .. .

that's where our story continues . . . till now,

we are 168 days old . . .

loving each our more and more each day .. . .

cherishing each other each day,

walking side by side and hopefully till the day we are old and grey.

(",)

And i will always remember how we dated each other,

the first few dates we had,

the first time you reprimanded me,

those late night waits for you,

Those nights we met to do the accounts together,

How we progress and grew fonder of each other,

I just got hooked onto ur hugs and kisses

So huggable,

So kissable,

from mutual liking to crazily in love,

My love for you just accelerate day by day. . .

mscs self adore

Without my mascaras . . .

Pure happiness

More than Happy when lovely took out his phone and snaps the candid pictures of us

during our train ride.

Lovely lovely hubbiieee,

Do you know how much your wifey wife loves you?

Little and simple gestures of urs makes me fly in the air.

Wifey wants to tell you,

and say thanks to you,

for being so sweet and wonderful.

The wait for me below your block,

the sleepless night we had before you left. . .

The call you made when you are away,

You sounded so tired and drained,

pardon me for being wilful,

for not allowing you to rest before your trip,

Its just a moment of unjustly feeling of not being on the trip which i am so looking forward to.

Shopping

Headed down to town with Stephen later part of the day for dinner and some shopping.

Steph was suppose to get some christmas gifts for his colleagues,

but the trip ended up to be my shopping trip instead.

Enough of shopping . . . i just busted a good 200 bucks again . . shit !!

I've got myself a new blusher from chanel to replenish the depleted one.

Its of the same shade i used to put on,

the JOULES CONTRASTE blusher powder.

I got hubbieee his usual tinted moisturiser from clinque.

I hope i got the correct shade he used to put on.

Steph and i rounded dinner at the mushroom pot with individual mini steamboat,

i cant take anymore of the fried stuffs and mushroom steamboat emerged as the winner to dine in for the evening.
I finally found my pilot snow cap at Muji,
and it makes me looks like an incredible mushroom head.
Wearing it on with the price tagg still on . . .
I am still contemplating on how can i dress to go with my newly bought pilot snow cap.
* My skinny MS SIXTY Jeans,
Layered Tank top,
White Zara hoodie,
round up with my coach sneakers *

Away

I was awaken by the phonecall from my sister.

It was 1.30pm.

I dragged my body out of hubbieee's bed,

a sudden surge of emptiness invaded me when i tried to reach out for my lovely.

He is not lying next to me.

He will be away for the coming 4 days.

Missings and countless misses . . . ..

I tidy his bed,

walked out of his room and saw the empty piano space,

walked towards the kitchen and realised there is no one at home.

The promise i made to tidy up his room wasnt fulfill.

I walked to his washing machine and found out,

i do not know how to operate his washing machine.

i need some guidance.

Well be sure my lovely,

You will see your tidied room when you are back.

Be missing you . . .

dont know why

i dont know why i love him so damn much,

i just melt whenever i see him .. . . .

i cant seems to get angry with him,

whenever he hugged me,

i just melt in his arms. . .

i tried to slap him, it ended up piercing pain whenever i does that.

He is just so adorable,

too adoring for me to get angry with.

I did tear for him once . . .

but that was a silly jealously of mine.

He is just so dear to me,

i just cant help but to love him and love him more and more each day . .

my lovely hubhub i really want u to be mine . . .

mine for the rest of my life.

Revolves

Listening to how steph bitches about his work . . . .

and i dont know what happened,

it ended up arrowing at me .. .

Silly boy, he got too stress up with his lovelife and work. . . but dont arrow at me ya . .

please dont join forces with Teo Huahua.

I really do not know how love can get so complicated for him?

Love is not a game . . he sounded to me like some mind war which i cant comprehend.

Why make it so complicated?

Why cant people just voice out how they feel, taking pride and egos aside.

?

Life for me is great where love is concern,

its simple,

straight-forward,

am i blessed by some angels?

To have lovely by my side.

Everything is simplified.

Like a simplified equation where expansion is redundant.

Complications make people unhappy,

as long as lovely and i is concern,

i would definitely want lovely to feel at ease being with me,

to throw away all complications he had from the outside world,

to cuddle in a little corner where he knows he will be safe at.

Simple.Comfortable.Loved.Peaceful.

Ps lovely hubhubee . . . i supposed i need to apologise for making a mess in ya room . . . . I'll make time to tidy it up when i pop by . . in the meanwhile, do bear with it a little.

Post 353

Prepared myself and headed down to jurong for ma appointment early evening with Lanie.

Met up with Samuel after his shootings for some recuitment ads,

and

rounded up at crystal jade for dinner.

*Thanks for dinner*

Taking a closer look at Samie,

he gives an unexplainable "Arvinono" feel.

They do resemble in a certain way,

the way they talk, and the shy smile they gave.

Dinner was on Samie therefore i took the initiative to buy him coffee after dinner over at Starbucks.

I review on the impression toward me,

discounting on what he did when we met at Saibai.

The kind of image he tries to portray when we got to know each other a few months back through Alvin.

It is idiotic,

and how Alvin actually image us "my girl group".

The way they open bottles to impress us doesnt make it look impressive at all.

He got the guys to open bottles and wait for our arrival. . . .

silly idiots. . . . and never to do that again..

I got to know another side of samie and rediscover this friend of mine.

P triple E,

Current law,

Applied mec,

Physics mech

Digital E,

he is a smart ass.

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The ACS ah-beng Boss and his RGS chick

MrGoh Wz and Boss

P0st 351

This is what i call a beauty sleep,

Cucumber eyes,

and heart warming Hubhubiee branded facial mask.

Thanks my dearest hubbieee,

Its the greatest thing on earth to be pampered by YOU . . . .

I am so freaking inlove with you.

I feel so fortunate and blessed with your adoring love.

I really cant help it my lovely dearest hubbieee,

to love you more, more, more and endless more each day.

You complete my heart,

and makes it beat just for you.

[ whispering a little secret ]

I truely believe that you are the one,

the one and only that i will spend my life with.

My hubbieee took a photo of us when i am sound asleep,

a join photo of us,

a cute and lovely picture of us . .

Apologises to my readers,

the sweet sugary rush is meant just for lovely and I.

PIC OF ME AND LOVELY

PORTRAIT

LEAVE IT UP TO YA IMAGINATION

We had BBQ the night before,

accompanied by the usual Trio,

Huahua, myself and lovely.

Ingredients for the night . .

Wakru beef, Shisamu, smoked bacon with asparagus and hot sake beside the charcoal.

My hubbie ee

Hubbieee told me that he misses me so much . . .

so, is it suppose to be good or bad?

:)

I miss my love hubhub equally much as well.

Just miss each other a little more during the days, when we didnt get the see each other,

in case seeing me too often will bore you out one day.

:)

Just take a little pause along our path,

indeed, we still have a long way to go,

i'll take it as ,

the time that we will be seeing each other,

based on the remaining three quarter of our life.

:)

Hug hug my one and only hubbieee.

Hubhub lets go to Malacca for holiday, I will to like to get a Peranakan kebaya for myself. Just like the bookmark kebaya you gave me.

<>

I am a good girl

I am a good girl.

My maid was away at grandpa's place.

I did the laundry,

clean up the house,

shower my baby,

went to the supermarket,

stock up house supplies,

bought 2 cans of abalone for dad,

cook dinner,

I cooked greens,

Sambal mince meat with Shitake mushroom,

did the thai prawn salad for mei mei,

i fried the green pepper and bacon in spicy dace sauce

a pot of pork knuckle lotus roots soup with peanuts.

Not perfect but edible.

All thanks to my hubbieee,

through the observations of hubbieee when he is cooking :)

Its a home cook dinner for my family after 2 years.

I can tell that dad is glad to eat some home cook food even it is not really that tasty.

here we go APM

Before the party

Tommy the Ah Toot act

Mr Pong, our branch director

Time for some food . .

In fact the food taste yulky

Tiffany in Act . . . Trying to flirt with

Mr Eric Ng

The Contestant on the stage

Synergy founder Dr Adrain Peh

The Kawaii Secretary

Tiffany Shy

Kranji Secondary anyone?

The Peh Family:

Lim Peh, Annabelle Peh, Lim Lao Peh

Derrick, tiffany/Thomas and Tommy Toot

Fletcher and Mel

Preview

Thomas a.k.a Tiffany

the star of the Gala night,

accompanied by CHIJ Mel

APM KL

Lok Lok stall opposite our hotel

Peek-a-boo,

more pictures of our " Recess " time students pictures will be uploaded once its sort.

Await.

Neighbourhood neighbours

Its a small world having so many many friends staying around my vicinity,

more than often i'll received smses fm them either asking me for mahjong sessions or drinking sessions nearby.

The one who freaks me out in the middle of the night 4am in the morning, with a sms for drink,

must be Alvin,

Alvin stays in the same block as Nicholas,

Alvin is married and a father of 1,

Wendy stays in the same block as the 2 of them as well,

My poly juniors Zoukie boys,

Darren and Wei, stays 30 steps walking distances from me.

Kel kel stays 2 blocks away from me.

And the thing is,

we are not known to each other through so what " who lives near you "

Wendy = Secondary sch buddy

Alvin = YQ friend i got known at Thai Disco

Nicholas = He is the Levis cute boy

Darren and Wei = Fended stacy and i at phuture when some "ang mos" wanna get some flesh

Kel kel = Not so close, he is karen's friend